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Food and Drink in the clubCan I just remind people that we are not allowed to take our own drinks of any type into the club. The management are watching and someone left a coke bottle lying around in the club on monday, that along with the cool box(my fault) made them think we were bringing our own drinks.
We are fine to take food in as long as you bring some for me 
Ian
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pangloss666
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perhaps they should be equally/more concerned that they are selling multipack cans of coke in breach of trading standards legislation? ;-P
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dedindahed
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AFAIK selling multipack stuff individually is not illegal.
Also there is a big difference in selling produce for consumption on premises, v.s. shop
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Gileh
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If the items say 'not for resale' they I would be inclined to think it is, but I would need to check the legal/tax definitions of resale.
I miss Bernard. He'd know.
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Kamikazegerbil
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Well considering they're overcharging based on standard price for individual cans they'll be making a larger profit on multipacks which are intended to be cheaper.
I always figured that was the entire reason for the restriction on selling them separately. I'm no lawyer though...
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Gileh
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It depends. The law is different at point of use sale on some things. Essentially ALL bars do is buy a discount multipack (from a wholesaler or supplier) and sell it on
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Kamikazegerbil
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True. My assumption was that they were buying the multi-packs in bulk (like a regular retailer would should they wish to be have multi-packs on the shelves) rather than buying the 24 (this number may have changed) packs of "individual" cans to sell separately.
As I said I'm no lawyer so I've no idea if the law is different for bars, but either way I assume they sell cans marks as multi-pack cans to save money and net a bigger profit. Normally I'd have no problem with that as long as it's legal but their price is almost twice as much as most places charge for a can of coke.
/end whiny rant
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pangloss666
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yes, also (if i recall correctly) the cans were 70p before we moved and had gone up to a quid when we moved back a few weeks later (albeit under new management)
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Which pub do you drink in where a glass of coke is only 50p? £1 is about normal anywhere I drink, you just dont get it out of a can, its in a glass which is usually about the same size as a can. Remember its a pub, they have to make a profit.
I prefer cans as it means we are drinking real coke and not the usual cheap knockoff stuff which is what we would get out of a pump.
Ian
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ian jones
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said it before i'll say it again.
50p subs plus 2 cans of coke = £2.50.
7-11 = 4hours
does anybody know the cost of a "coffee" at starbucks or costa?
does anybody know the cost of parking in chester city for 4hours?
if any of you guys want to rent out your big hall or function room for £15. pay sombody to serve me, pay for lights, heating, rent, insurance(s), keep health and safety upto date, and maintain the place i will gladly give my shiny coin to you for 330ml of the real stuff.
Little project for those not convinced. Work out how much they make off us and take out expenditure this includes vat, wages, rent, oveheads, cost purchases. if you argue they wouldn't make money on a slow monday then the arguement is they could possibly close and only lose minimal money (especially bank hols). i reckon we give them total £50 of which about 6.50 goes to gordon brown, 4x6- £24 in wages (not including the cleaner) leaving £19.50. cost of purchases say £15 see where this is going? Maybe they should do more snacks to make more profit as at this rate none of you will get the shiny refurbished room . Take this business plan to dragons den and see if they invest.
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pangloss666
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im not saying that it's not a cheap night out.
I was just commenting ironically that it was a bit rich for them to be moaning about us bringing our own drinks when they were selling multipack cans (which presumably must say 'part of a multipack. not to be sold individually') at inflated prices (one of the arguments made for going back to the Deva was the drinks were cheaper. they were 70p and now they are a quid)
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Kamikazegerbil
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| dead wrote: | Which pub do you drink in where a glass of coke is only 50p? £1 is about normal anywhere I drink, you just dont get it out of a can, its in a glass which is usually about the same size as a can. Remember its a pub, they have to make a profit.
I prefer cans as it means we are drinking real coke and not the usual cheap knockoff stuff which is what we would get out of a pump.
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Average cost of a can of coke is 60p. Wouldn't get their cans from a wholesaler I'm assuming they pay the same as a newsagents would? Unless wholesalers purposely charge pubs more (seem unlikely) if a Newsagents is making a profit on selling cans of coke how is a pub not doing so? Is there extra tax?
For the record I tend to prefer the on tap coke in pubs. Don't mind canned, just like the tap stuff more. Also on-tap tends to be sold as half-pint or pint so it's trickier to compare prices as a coke can is a bit more than half a pint. I think it does work out a little more but as said for tap stuff I'd actually be willing to pay the extra for the on-tap stuff. 70p seems fine, maybe even 80p but a pound is getting silly imo.
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Tess
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| ian jones wrote: |
if any of you guys want to rent out your big hall or function room for £15. pay sombody to serve me, pay for lights, heating, rent, insurance(s), keep health and safety upto date, and maintain the place i will gladly give my shiny coin to you for 330ml of the real stuff.
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and just how up to date do you reckon thier health and safety is exactly?
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pangloss666
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£24 in wages (not including the cleaner)
They pay the cleaner?! 
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dedindahed
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| Quote: | | Average cost of a can of coke is 60p. Wouldn't get their cans from a wholesaler I'm assuming they pay the same as a newsagents would? Unless wholesalers purposely charge pubs more (seem unlikely) if a Newsagents is making a profit on selling cans of coke how is a pub not doing so? Is there extra tax? |
Wholesalers don't charge pubs more, but newsagents don't have alcohol licencing fees, require less staffing, don't provide tables/chairs, don't have to clean your glass or provide ice, there may be additional tax, not sure.
Isn't £1 for a coke (can or draught) about standard for a pub anyway??
I know we charged £1.10 for a half of draught coke when I worked in a hotel bar 5 years ago.
Reselling multipack is perfectly legit for pubs/restaraunts
The best solution for anyone not happy about soft drink prices is to vote with your wallet and not buy any.
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| Tess wrote: |
and just how up to date do you reckon thier health and safety is exactly? |
Are you suggesting that they lock the fire escape 
When we go the Boot on friday someone(I'm not) but a glass of coke and let us know how much it is. I bet the price wont be that much different.
Oh and Boot on Friday.
If you dont like spending £1 for a can of coke then dont, but its not unreasonable for them to be pissed off if they think someone is taking drink into the club where they make their money selling drink.
Ian
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Kamikazegerbil
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| dedindahed wrote: | | Quote: | | Average cost of a can of coke is 60p. Wouldn't get their cans from a wholesaler I'm assuming they pay the same as a newsagents would? Unless wholesalers purposely charge pubs more (seem unlikely) if a Newsagents is making a profit on selling cans of coke how is a pub not doing so? Is there extra tax? |
Wholesalers don't charge pubs more, but newsagents don't have alcohol licencing fees, require less staffing, don't provide tables/chairs, don't have to clean your glass or provide ice, there may be additional tax, not sure. |
Okay perhaps an off-licence would be a better example, in particular one that is also a newsagents (though I'll stand corrected if off-licence having lower licensing fees). The Deva doesn't seem to have that much in the way of staff. The off-licence/newsagents I used to work in almost always had 3 staff on at a time except on Sunday evening and needed it, when have you seen 3 on-duty staff at the Deva? Tables and chairs are a one time cost and since they haven't provided new ones don't explain the price increase. Additional Tax I can't argue though.
| Quote: | Isn't £1 for a coke (can or draught) about standard for a pub anyway??
I know we charged £1.10 for a half of draught coke when I worked in a hotel bar 5 years ago. |
Aren't hotels more expensive than most pubs anyway? I could be wrong. I generally buy draught coke in pints and that was generally less than 2 quid.
| Quote: | | Reselling multipack is perfectly legit for pubs/restaraunts |
Fair enough.
| Quote: | | The best solution for anyone not happy about soft drink prices is to vote with your wallet and not buy any. |
Note I don't buy soft drinks at the Deva. I occasionally buy lager as I'm weak and think that isn't too badly priced (more than it used to be but I know of other places that charge more). I'd rather have coke every week than lager sometimes but I'm not paying a quid for a can.
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ian jones
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so the solution? buy alcohol instead!
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dedindahed
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| Kamikazegerbil wrote: |
Okay perhaps an off-licence would be a better example, in particular one that is also a newsagents (though I'll stand corrected if off-licence having lower licensing fees). The Deva doesn't seem to have that much in the way of staff. The off-licence/newsagents I used to work in almost always had 3 staff on at a time except on Sunday evening and needed it, when have you seen 3 on-duty staff at the Deva? Tables and chairs are a one time cost and since they haven't provided new ones don't explain the price increase. Additional Tax I can't argue though. |
There are tiers of tax for alcohol, selling to take home, selling with food, and selling drink only. The pub has a substantially higher tax than an offy, or a restaraunt. By tables and chairs, I was more reffering to that fact they are providing a heated/lit/furnished venue, you will always pay more for drinks in a pub/resarunt than from a supermarket or off licence, it's not a viable comparison.
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Kamikazegerbil
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| dedindahed wrote: | | Kamikazegerbil wrote: |
Okay perhaps an off-licence would be a better example, in particular one that is also a newsagents (though I'll stand corrected if off-licence having lower licensing fees). The Deva doesn't seem to have that much in the way of staff. The off-licence/newsagents I used to work in almost always had 3 staff on at a time except on Sunday evening and needed it, when have you seen 3 on-duty staff at the Deva? Tables and chairs are a one time cost and since they haven't provided new ones don't explain the price increase. Additional Tax I can't argue though. |
There are tiers of tax for alcohol, selling to take home, selling with food, and selling drink only. The pub has a substantially higher tax than an offy, or a restaraunt. By tables and chairs, I was more reffering to that fact they are providing a heated/lit/furnished venue, you will always pay more for drinks in a pub/resarunt than from a supermarket or off licence, it's not a viable comparison. |
Can't argue with that. I still think 70-80p would be more reasonable (and more than regular shops) but maybe that's just me.
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pangloss666
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I would even pay over a quid if the money was going to pay a cleaner!
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