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| Teflon Billy |
Magic the expensiveningHow much interest is there in "peasant magic" duels?http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/feature/58 I've only played the Xbox version (don't actually own any cards). So I'm keen to know before actually forking out cash. 
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| dedindahed |
I'd join in with any peasant/commons version of magic if it were played at the club, and can even make cards available for people to use who want to give it a go without spending.
Another format we used to play (that's even more balanced to budget collections) is 60 card deck, 4 of each land type (20 total) Only commons NO duplicates, 1 card limit of all cards All mana is colourless (though spells/creatures retain colour) Peasant magic can still give an edge to bigger colletions that have 4x of some of the better commons, although this style does give less opportunity for themed & synergistic deckbuilding. |
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| dedindahed |
another play field levelling format...
http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~geduggan/EDH_rules.html |
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| Teflon Billy |
Thinking so far:
Peasant magic rules (60 cards no more than 4 of each name, only 5 uncommons, no rares). I think it's going to be simpler/cheaper for me to initially work out a deck beforehand and then just buy them separately (approx £11-£13). This appears to be cheaper than buying packs approx (£11) ea, (and contain rares). One thing I don't like is cards that just have "protection from...." This just seems to be designed to force you to buy a wider variety of cards, because otherwise a mono-colour deck would be completely shut down. |
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| Shaphron |
I'd join in a peasent magic game happily. Would require thought in deck making, but would be fun. I'd prefer the peasent magic rules to only one of a certain kind of card, and all land being colourless. That seems to take some of the skill out of it, whereas peasent magic seems to try to make sure you can't be beaten by someone having a really good card.
When would you be thinking of taking cards to the club? |
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| Teflon Billy |
Probably take me a couple of weeks to sort out and buy a deck.
When that’s done 7.00-7.30 is my usual current 'free time' (before Paz's game starts). |
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| metagaia |
I must admit, I am not a fan of the 5-colour-1-of-a-kind-thing. Only those people with a gargantuan variety of commons will be able to build a deck woth any power and/or synergy.
I essentially see two options for this a) Run default peasant b) Run what I would call 'serf' magic: No uncommons or rares at all. I would like the variant finalised before I start building decks for it though. |
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| dedindahed |
Yeah, that's kind of the point, hence why I mentioned it takes a lot of the advantage of having a big collection away. It does play better than it sounds, and makes for good multiplayer, but as most people are preferring traditional peasant we'll go with that to start. EDH sounds like a really good format, but seems like a difficult one for starting players as you really need a 3 colour legend to get started. Will have to work on a peasant deck, There is a really useful tool called magic suitcase that will help deckbuilding for people without cards, can be downloaded here, and you can even use it to print out proxied versions of cards. http://www.magicsuitcase.org/ |
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| dedindahed |
In all the time I've played the game, I've never had a problem with protection creatures. That is one one of the downsides of a mono-deck, but bear in mind that a deck that includes a protection creature gets little use out of it against other colours, and they tend to be smaller creatures anyway. There are several ways around protection, including artifacts, and certain spells. Big trampling creatures can also damage over protected creatures. If we do ban any rule, I would be in favour of banning creatures with shadow, an ability that came out in one set, and shadowing creatures can't be blocked by or block non shadowing creatures. |
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| Teflon Billy |
I suppose this sort of thing will only become apparent when we start playing.
My first deck has been ordered, should be with me shortly. |
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| metagaia |
I'll build a deck to try out tomorrow as well. Annoyingly, one of my best decks has gone missing, so I suppose I can't just scavenge that for some of me 'a' commons and uncommons.
I have no problem with protections. Though it can be easier to counter some than others. Circle of Protection: Red can be a nightmare for mono-red decks, as red is not good at enchantment removal. Shadow I don't see as a big problem, since they can't block to balance things out, and they can still be killed outside of combat. Are we allowed to have sideboards at all? |
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| Teflon Billy |
Whoa! 
Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I only ordered the cards today (Sunday) so I definitely won't have a deck for tomorrow, maybe next week? Depends on the post etc. Of course this doesn't stop other people playing. I haven't bought any cards for a sideboard yet, of course it may become necessary. I was just going to see how my deck worked out. |
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| metagaia |
So to summerize peasant rules:
1. Deck must be 60 card minimum 2. Limit of 5 uncommons to a deck and no rares 3. If there is no rarity symbol on the card, check the gatherer database or something similar 4. Vintage legality otherwise 5. Sideboard of 15 cards allowed Sound ok? |
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| Teflon Billy |
Fine with me.
What about Mulligans? |
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| metagaia |
Same as last time I played magic, unless the rules have changed. You can choose to mulligan if you like, but you draw 1 less card on the redraw. 
Apparantly there was a demi famous instant at one tournament where 1 player mulliganed down to 4 cards, realised he wouldn't win. So he mulliganed down to 1 card, and played nothing for that round, just drew up to his hand limit and resigned. He then used what he saw his opponent play to sideboard his deck correctly, and won the next 2 to take the match
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| Teflon Billy |
Deck is now ready  .
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| dedindahed |
I put together a peasant deck over the weekend, which is a bitch if your collection extends back to the time when common/uncommon/rare information wasn't printed on the cards.
Will have it with me this evening. |
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| Shaphron |
I'll make one now. I also have cards which don't have the info on, and so are banned. But it should be do-able. I'll see if I can get some "proper" decks made too. It'll be fun!
Shell |
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| Teflon Billy |
Only £89.96 for a set of 4 Lotus Cobras, what a bargain, 
http://www.magicmadhouse.co.uk/catalog/lotus-cobra-p-43390.html |
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