[paz]

The original purpose of collecting subs was to pay for the room, but we seem to have built up a 'war chest' with some disagreement on the best way to spend it. How would people feel about having a payment holiday once we reach a certain safe level of saved funds? e.g. once we go over £100, having no subs until the kitty falls below £50 (at which point we restart).

[Immortal Rites]

its certainly an idea to be considered and will be discussed at the next comitee meeting.

Personally (and i do mean my personal opinion here) I actually like having the kitty full as we can organise lots of nights out and things to do outside the club. Which for some of us is the only other social experience we get. To be fair, no one has argued HOW the money is spent, we have all agreed on meals/nights out etc, the problem arose from the WAY in which its all be organised.

[dedindahed]

i think that free weeks is a much better solution than regular nights out etc.

A christmas meal is a good idea though, would make a good annual fixture.

But paying for nights out and meals on a regular basis seems like it will end up benefitting a select few most of the time, its certainly less inclusive than free weeks which are of benefit to every club member.

Also free weeks do not need to be organised, simply implemented when needed.

Nothing is stopping parties/meals/nights out being arranged alongside the club.

[paz]

[paz]

The more I think about this idea, the more I am convinced that it is the only one that doesn't leave somebody feeling hard done by, whether it's because that person has missed the night out (again), or can't get support for buying his favourite board game or the RPG scenario he wants to run while others do, etc.

Refining what I've said earlier, this is what I propose. It's based on the historical safe kitty level of £50 which we've kept since time immemorial.

The club collects subs as normal. The only outgoing expenses are ones that are essential for the club e.g. room hire and domain name renewal* costs. When the kitty reaches £110, subs stop for 4 weeks, and then restart.

Hopefully that avoids any issues with people not seeing any benefit (apart from weird, rare cases like people going on holiday for a month at just the wrong time).

* Feel free to discuss the validity of that one; I'd rather it be debated and overruled than people feel they're being short-changed.

[metagaia]

I was thinking something similar but having it a bit more oragnised:

On the first Monday of every two month period, have some kind of 'free board games night' where the night is free and the emphasis is on one-off board games.  This increases club interaction and because it's scheduled, no-one can complain about missing it due to not being informed until the last moment.  (Paz's suggestion is probably better of course)

Depending on attendance, this should also allow cash to accumulate for other things.

Thoughts?

[dead]

We always did intend to do the regular board games, it just kinda fell by the wayside. Gonna suggest one before xmas anyway to help kick off the bloodbowl league. Still perfectly happy with it, as to making it free I dont know.

Ian

[dedindahed]

I do really like that Idea, but largely from a personal standpoint as given the choice overall I prefer board games to RPG's.

You may find some of the RPG's will carry on regardless, and as I said in another thread I'm not keen on the club controlling what people can and can't do.
BUT
there is a very good chance that a couple of games may well take a weeks break, and it does seem like it will benefit interaction.

Could be worth looking into with or without making it free.

[HDimagination]

Would there be a concern with some people only turning up at times when we are not charging a subscription?

Just raising the issue.

[Immortal Rites]

Hmm... on further though i like the idea of blanket free weeks at set times.

Board game nights on a regular basis sounds like alot of fun too.

As for people turning up on only free weeks, thats where my list of atendees comes in. If this turns out to be the case a quiet word with the person/persons would be in order.

[dedindahed]

If someone is so hard up that £1 is the difference in them being able to attend or not i'll happily subsidise such people.

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[Immortal Rites]

Dead:

I have on occasion let people pay double for a week they have missed.

They are noted in the book as: x2 next week so i know who owes what.

I dont mind doing this on occasion for people as they forget wallets, cant afford it etc. But dont make it a habit - IE i feel it would be taking the micky to owe more than 3 weeks at a time.

Dave:

Who are these hard up people? oh yeah me. So far i think im the one in most financial trouble as having no job and owing almost £2000 on rent. And also stupidly into my overdraft. And i havent not paid my subs. Everyone can afford £1 dave its not like its a small fortune is it now?

[dedindahed]

[HDimagination]

Ah, I think that you’ve missed my point.  Wasn’t worried about people not because they couldn’t afford it, I was concerned with people who can afford it only turning up when ‘payment holidays’ are arranged.  It’s not a big issue, just some-thing to think about, because there will always be some people out there that will try to take advantage.

Or maybe that’s just my cynical nature.

[paz]

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Im not to worried about people only turning up on free weeks. We can deal with that if and when it happens. Free nights are sounding like the easiest and most argument free solution to the current problem.

At the risk of topic drift I would like to see some kind of agreement on how many times people can turn up and have forgotten their wallet etc. Not letting them play on the 3rd week sounds good to me, how about everyone else? Want me to create a new thread?

Ian

[dedindahed]

Another possibility is to not pre-announce free weeks.
People can just be told on the night that there is no need to pay this week.

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[metagaia]

Hmmm, I feel we are immunising ourselves against a problem that does not exist here.  But I have no problems with the free weeks when x is hit in the kitty and stop at y.  Any idea how much y would be or just the usual safe £50?

[dead]

That would depend, if we are doing the 50% ownership as well then it would have to be over the £50 mark or we would never hit the £50. We can choose to drop the kitties lower limit but I feel that would be a bad idea. I would suggest £100, that gives us a nice buffer means we can do one or two 50% ownerships and still not drop below £50.

Ian

[HDimagination]

Sounds good to me.

[Immortal Rites]

i like the idea of nt announcing when the free weeks will be.... It'll be like a Suprise present to everyone!!

[Haskeer]

see now were gting sumwer. simplicity is the way forward. im sure you guys like to make things complicated! what i ind funny is that its took three pages of discuss to come back and agree what dad mat sed in the first place!

put a tick on this one too!