dedindahed
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Re-election Restructure??So, there has been a dose of politics, tension, hurt feelings, controversy etc.
While we're in the middle of a restructure it could be a good opportunity to revise,
Some people have had a problem with the term comittee, I was musing that as we're a gaming club we could re-title the positions, and perhaps put a gaming slant in here and there.
Chairman = Guildmaster
Vice chair = Chief lackey
Secretary = Scribe
Treasurer becomes 2 joint positions, Collectors/Taxpersons
Re-title the positions to Helpers or Assistants and do away with the title committee altogether....
Just musing really, not complaining or demanding, but less formal titles might kill some of the resistance, I know some people have never been happy with the term committee.
Of course I'm also open to suggestions of "not this again, will people bloody shut up about the damn committee/election" etc.
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Death Jester
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I hate that term too, its all way too formal. Maybe
Lord-Chair
Baron-Vice Chair
Paymaster-Treasurer
Warden?-vice
Groundskeeper-Webmaster
Like the Scribe idea. Assistant scribe too.
Any more thoughts? 
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metagaia
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Hmmm, not that I am not in favour of a change like that (in fact I am completely neutral, I consider the name to be almost irrelevant "a rose by any other name" etc), but this is something that can only really be decided at the club, and I really really *really* want to avoid another meeting so soon after the previous one as it would make a mockery of the term 'AGM'.
However, purely for fun, I would choose Unseen University titles,
a lá
President = Archchancellor
VP= Dean
Treasurer = Bursar
Secretary = The Librarian
VT = Lecturer in Recent Runes
Webmaster = Chair of Indefinite Studies
EDIT: this would of course, change the 'commitee' into the 'faculty' which while serving the same purpose, sounds funnier.
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dead
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I like the idea of having a Lacky  If the VP is the Chief Lacky does that mean everyone else is just normal lackys, or are they sub lackys.
Ducks and runs 
Ian
p.s. Does changing the names actually mean anything?
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ian jones
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what about the leader being called "computer" and given security clearance ultra-violet and the others programmers, and security officers with lesser clearance?
i love the computer, not loving the computer is treasonous.
just a thought from doppleganger-r-ume?#1
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metagaia
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| ian jones wrote: | what about the leader being called "computer" and given security clearance ultra-violet and the others programmers, and security officers with lesser clearance?
i love the computer, not loving the computer is treasonous.
just a thought from doppleganger-r-ume?#1 |
I can't let you do that Dave 
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Shaphron
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Re: Re-election Restructure?? | dedindahed wrote: |
Treasurer becomes 2 joint positions, Collectors/Taxpersons |
The only thing I owuld say about this is then there may be arguments as to who keeps the box - haveing a main and a vice at least shows that you deal with the one person, unless they don't turn up, and such.
Completely don't care about the names - more fun ones owuld be, well, fun, but I bet they still get descirbed as "well, the chief lacky is the vice chairperson" etc.
If we do want different names, I can think of a way of doing it without having another huge meeting. Simply 1 person who is interested go round the club - preferably over 2 weeks to get most people - and chat to everyone, saying they want suggestions of what to call the committee and members. Then they whittle it down to the best 5 or so, and then take it back and have people vote on it over the next 2 weeks, keep it onformal and under 1 persons control, and hey presto, everyone will use the new names. As it doesn't change much, I don't see how anyone could complain it wasn't done at a main meeting.
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Death Jester
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I dont think we even need to go that far, ask if people are interested in having a name change and just randomly shout out some suggestions, have abit of fun with it.
I think its a great idea and bogging it down with more voting isn't really neccesary we will just say it and see what people think.
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Shaphron
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the reason I suggested a quiet vote was, if you don't have some form of vote, you will not end up with what the majority wants. Plus, just shouting it out will detract from people playing games, as people would have to stop playing to join in the shouting, and if they don't may well be distracted by the shouting. doing it quietly owuld involve less disruption to everyone...
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metagaia
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| Death Jester wrote: | | I dont think we even need to go that far, ask if people are interested in having a name change and just randomly shout out some suggestions, have abit of fun with it. |
If we are going to do that, then it would have to be done before the main games start, which would mean several people wouldn't be there.
Since we are doing a ballot *anyway* we could just add some of the suggestions from the forums and informal conversation on Monday to the ballot and get people to vote on them, provided Simon is happy counting that vote as well.
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Kamikazegerbil
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I say the Treasurers postitions should called be "Bonnie" and "Clyde"
That moment of silliness aside, while I'm in favour of adding an extra bit of fun into the club, can we please please pleeeeeeaasssseee not hold another meeting over it? The general meeting was needed, but that doesn't mean I liked it. The occasional "We have this idea, all in favour raise your hand" deal is fine as it only takes a couple of minutes and then we can all go back to chatting CENSORED or gaming, but if we end up sitting around at the club discussing this for half an hour an unspecified deity of your choice will kill a puppy/kitten/other thing that it would upset you to have killed.
Oh I also like the Unseen University idea. We're crazy enough.
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Death Jester
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exactly what I was trying to say!
It doesnt have to take a long time
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Gileh
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The committee should be called the Politburo with all positions called commissar except for the president, who shall be the 'High Mugsy'.
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Shaphron
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| Death Jester wrote: | | I dont think we even need to go that far, ask if people are interested in having a name change and just randomly shout out some suggestions, have abit of fun with it. |
| Death Jester wrote: | exactly what I was trying to say!
It doesnt have to take a long time |
I'm sorry DJ, but "randomly shouting out some suggestions" could take ages. and you do have to have a general consesus of the club to change anything in the club - that is something everyone agrreed upon. And to prove general consesus you need some form of vote, not matter how small.
Surely, having random chats with people, compliling a list, and then, cos I like the idea, giving it to Simon to add onto the current vote, would work well? Why force us to suspend gaming time to do somehting which is, in my opinion, ultimately pointless?
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dedindahed
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We could add an option to the vote to ask
Are you in favour of a less formal/more fun naming structure for the club "committee"
Once we get a yes or no I see no reason we can't get the final names via a forum post/poll
As it's largely a "cosmetic" rather than a structural change I don't see that it's completely essential to get the say of absolutely everyone,
As long as everyone knows it will be discussed and decided on the forum, can anyone really claim they dont have web access at all these days???
Those that care will simply have to make the effort to use the forum.
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Shaphron
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That may work well. Given it is fairly cosmetic, doing it on the forums may well be the best idea. Can ask around what people think tonight.
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metagaia
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Sounds good, there is no rush after all, but it would be neat if the decision could sync with the current election.
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ian jones
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does it really matter, what the names are?
ian is still ian. bob is still bob, fred is still fred!
maybe for reference in writing (ie, this site) the peoples who run the club, collect the money, hide/bank the money, run this forum, should just be called "the club".
As in "the club has decided".
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Death Jester
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Sorry, I didn't mean literal shouting out. I know that would be insane hahaha
How about the people elected get a chance to decide on 2 possibilites, then have a simple show of hands while saying AYE!
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dead
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Can one of the options still be Lackys please, I like Lackys. And could we please change my title to OVERLORD?, please
pretty please?
Ian
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dedindahed
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| dead wrote: | Can one of the options still be Lackys please, I like Lackys. And could we please change my title to OVERLORD?, please
pretty please?
Ian |
The Overlord has spoken!!!
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Kamikazegerbil
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But Overlords are by their nature evil and destined to be overthrown by an unlikely hero and a plucky "comic relief" sidekick.
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Death Jester
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I like Overlord but lacky....not so sure.
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Tess
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I'd be happy as a lackey - but I think we are forgetting about 'minions', an overlord would surely have minions!
but dear god please no more voting. This is just silliness and should be kept so.
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Jimmy
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| Tess wrote: | | but dear god please no more voting. This is just silliness and should be kept so. |
surely that proposition should be voted on...
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Death Jester
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no, we have already established that there must first be a general meeting to decide that a vote should take place to see if a vote is needed for a name change, followed by another vote on what they should be
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dedindahed
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New position needed to be elected.
Keeper of the Matts
Job is to be the main point of contact for anyone confused about which matt is which, and must learn all possible nicknames and surnames for each matt.
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Death Jester
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Awesome! Ambassador to Matt Related Relations?
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Shaphron
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| Death Jester wrote: | | Awesome! Ambassador to Matt Related Relations? |
Hang on - would that title also imply some sort of wierd information gathering on the relationships the Matts have?
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Kamikazegerbil
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| Shaphron wrote: | | Death Jester wrote: | | Awesome! Ambassador to Matt Related Relations? |
Hang on - would that title also imply some sort of wierd information gathering on the relationships the Matts have? |
 I don't like where that's going.
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dead
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| Kamikazegerbil wrote: | | I don't like where that's going. |
Got something to hide?
| Tess wrote: | | I'd be happy as a lackey - but I think we are forgetting about 'minions', an overlord would surely have minions! |
But which is higher, Lacky or Minion? I guessing Lacky. Perhaps the members of the comitee could be my Lackys and then the rest of the club members are my Minions.
Ian
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Kamikazegerbil
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| dead wrote: | | Kamikazegerbil wrote: | | I don't like where that's going. |
Got something to hide? |
Apart from my membership in an apocalyptic cult no. I just had the image of a club member stalking me with high tech surveilance gear.
Then again they'd get bored quickly. 
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dead
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14:00 Playing Warcrack
14:15 Playing Warcrack
14:30 Playing Warcrack
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19:00 Playing Warcrack
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00:00 Playing Warcrack
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08:00 Gone to work
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18:00 Back from work playing Warcrack.
Pretty much from last time we tried it 
Overlord Ian
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Kamikazegerbil
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Replace "Warcrak" with StumbleUpon and yes that's pretty accurate. Seriously dude check your sources.
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dead
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Dam cheap Lackys
Overlord Ian
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Tess
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Just for the amusement of it...
Of course where you see king, read 'Overlord', for peasant read 'minion'!
WOMAN: I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective.
DENNIS: You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship. A self-
perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes--
WOMAN: Oh, there you go, bringing class into it again.
DENNIS: That's what it's all about. If only people would hear of--
ARTHUR: Please, please good people. I am in haste. Who lives in that castle?
WOMAN: No one lives there.
ARTHUR: Then who is your lord?
WOMAN: We don't have a lord.
ARTHUR: What?
DENNIS: I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.
ARTHUR: Yes.
DENNIS: But all the decision of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting--
ARTHUR: Yes, I see.
DENNIS: By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs,--
ARTHUR: Be quiet!
DENNIS: But by a two-thirds majority in the case of more major--
ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!
WOMAN: Order, eh? Who does he think he is? Heh.
ARTHUR: I am your king!
WOMAN: Well, I didn't vote for you.
ARTHUR: You don't vote for kings.
WOMAN: Well, how did you become king then?
ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake,...[angels sing]...her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. [singing stops] That is why I am your king!
DENNIS: Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
ARTHUR: Be quiet!
DENNIS: Well, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!
ARTHUR: Shut up, will you. Shut up!
DENNIS: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help! I'm being repressed!
ARTHUR: Bloody peasant!
DENNIS: Oh, what a give-away. Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?
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Shaphron
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No, monty python has sufaced, we must all take cover for the inevitable barrage of more quotes.....
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Kamikazegerbil
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You have no idea how many times that scene has been present in my thoughts during the whole comitee issue. I knew I wasn't the only one.
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metagaia
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Everyone else was restraining themselves, but *someone* couldn't resist
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paz
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NI!
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metagaia
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Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'ni' at will to old ladies.
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Death Jester
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We must take an urgent vote! Do we need anower swubawii?
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dead
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| Death Jester wrote: | | We must take an urgent vote! Do we need anower swubawii? |
We need to agree on a definitions of what swubawii is first, that may also require a vote.
Overlord Ian
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